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    Quote Originally Posted by BM_SRT View Post
    The op asked for the best gripping street tire so I'll throw in the Michelin PS4. It comes in 275/40/20 and 315/35/20. The Porsche models in those sizes were designed for a heavy, high performance Porsche Panamera sedan so it's no surprise that it's a perfect fit for a hemi powered lx. Grip in the wet or dry, road noise, comfort, life and looks are all the best I have ever experienced. It's a summer tire so they get better as it gets hotter outside but still phenomenal in the rain.Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
    I always wondered about these but they are almost double the price of most others.... how many mile will you really get from these is my main question...
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    Do the Michelin run bigger than other tires? I’ve heard they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrod1 View Post
    Do the Michelin run bigger than other tires? I’ve heard they do.
    Some sizes do. Since many of the PSS and PS4 models are tailored to a certain OEM vehicle specification, the Porsche and Ferrari models tend to run wider. The tread width measurement on TireRack.com will give you a good idea.

    For example, below are three Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires.

    On the left is a Porsche 295/35/20 on a 10" wheel, then a 285/35/20 on a 9" wheel, then a Porsche 255/40/20 on a 9" wheel.

    You can see that the Porsche sizes are significantly wider. The 255 is only .1" more narrow than the 285, per the tread width at tire rack.

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    That doesn't seem appropriate. I don't understand why tire sizes would run wider or skinnier because of specialization. I mean...the width designation is a definitive measure, it shouldn't deviate based on brand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyma45 View Post
    That doesn't seem appropriate. I don't understand why tire sizes would run wider or skinnier because of specialization. I mean...the width designation is a definitive measure, it shouldn't deviate based on brand.
    The measurement is for the section width which generally remains a constant for each size tire, assuming mounted on the same width wheel. The tread width can vary by a few inches depending on various tread block designs and it clearly makes a huge visual difference and also can affect if a tire rubs or not.
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    The Pirellis sometimes get a bad rap. There are actually 2 version that came on our cars. The A/S and the summer, both were Pzero. My car had the optional Pzero summer tires and they hooked great for a street radial tire. I replaced them with Nitto 555 G2 in a 315/35 on a 10.5 FR wheel. Here were my 60ft times:
    1.95s 275/40 Pirelli Pzero summer
    2.10s 315/35 Nitto 555 G2 summer

    The smaller Pzero summer tires hooked much better than my larger Nitto 555 G2 tires. The Pirelli tires are too expensive for what you get, so I tried the Nitto tires. They're not even close to the Pzero summers. Next time around I'm going to try something in the 220-240 treadware range. I'm willing to give up milage for traction. Running a drag radial is not an option since I drive 30K miles/year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FST4GM View Post
    The Pirellis sometimes get a bad rap. There are actually 2 version that came on our cars. The A/S and the summer, both were Pzero. My car had the optional Pzero summer tires and they hooked great for a street radial tire. I replaced them with Nitto 555 G2 in a 315/35 on a 10.5 FR wheel. Here were my 60ft times:
    1.95s 275/40 Pirelli Pzer summer
    2.10s 315/35 Nitto 555 G2 summer

    The smaller Pzero summer tires hooked much better than my larger Nitto 555 G2 tires. The Pirelli tires are too expensive for what you get, so I tried the Nitto tires. They're not even close to the Pzero summers. Next time around I'm going to try something in the 220-240 tread ware range. I'm willing to give up milage for traction. Running a drag radial is not an option since I drive 30K miles/year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FST4GM View Post
    The Pirellis sometimes get a bad rap. There are actually 2 version that came on our cars. The A/S and the summer, both were Pzero. My car had the optional Pzero summer tires and they hooked great for a street radial tire. I replaced them with Nitto 555 G2 in a 315/35 on a 10.5 FR wheel. Here were my 60ft times:
    1.95s 275/40 Pirelli Pzer summer
    2.10s 315/35 Nitto 555 G2 summer

    The smaller Pzero summer tires hooked much better than my larger Nitto 555 G2 tires. The Pirelli tires are too expensive for what you get, so I tried the Nitto tires. They're not even close to the Pzero summers. Next time around I'm going to try something in the 220-240 tread ware range. I'm willing to give up milage for traction. Running a drag radial is not an option since I drive 30K miles/year.
    I'm running the same setup and my 60ft times are 1.7 and 1.8 with the Nitto's.

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    You're probably running the Nitto 555R drag radial, not the 555 G2 tire. There is no way you are getting 1.7 60ft. times with the 555 G2!
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    2008 Caliber SRT4 Inferno Red - SOLD 14.091@105.93 (2.327 60 ft.) MS1K v.2, MPx catted DP, K&N drop-in, NGK plugs, RT 180, Mopar hitch, new short block @ 82,000
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FST4GM View Post
    You're probably running the Nitto 555R drag radial, not the 555 G2 tire. There is no way you are getting 1.7 60ft. times with the 555 G2!
    I'm running the G2's all around and I am most definitely getting 1.7 60 ft times running 1/8 and 1/4 mile tracks. There are several other members of my club with chargers and challengers running the G2's getting 1.7 and 1.6 60 ft times. There's the timeslips, my car and the tires.

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    Wow, I stand corrected. Those are by far the best 60ft times I've seen with those tires. What size are your tires and how wide are your wheels? Are you doing a burnout with them or going around the water box?
    2016 Charger SRT TorRed Best: ET 12.70, MPH 112.30 (DA 2446ft.), 60ft. (1.95 radials) BBK 85mm, AFE CAI, Johan 91Oct tune. 1/2 Mile: 135.38mph, 1 Mile: 160.0mph; 1.5 mile 170 (let off to avoid breaking out of 170 class)

    2008 Caliber SRT4 Inferno Red - SOLD 14.091@105.93 (2.327 60 ft.) MS1K v.2, MPx catted DP, K&N drop-in, NGK plugs, RT 180, Mopar hitch, new short block @ 82,000
    2007 300C SRT8 Inferno Red - SOLD 12.77@110.71 (2.003 60 ft.) AFE CAI, Predator 93 CAI, Magnaflow gutted high-flow cats, Stack intake spacer, BBK 85mm TB, JET 188, Proxes 4 275/40ZR20

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    I'm running 10.5 in rim with 315 35 20's I drive right thru the water box and do a 2 to 3 second burnout. I launch at about 800 to 1200 rpm's. It looks most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayres View Post
    I'm running 10.5 in rim with 315 35 20's I drive right thru the water box and do a 2 to 3 second burnout. I launch at about 800 to 1200 rpm's. It looks most of the time.

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    I’d be willing to bet you could lower that 60’ going around the box and not dripping the water off of your front tires in front of your rears.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayres View Post


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    Quote Originally Posted by ronan978 View Post
    I’d be willing to bet you could lower that 60’ going around the box and not dripping the water off of your front tires in front of your rears.


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    Burnout or no burnout with the dry tires? I hear a lot of arguments both ways.

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