I don't use one on my Challenger until after I've used a breaker bar to get the lugs loose...way loose. I just use my cordless impact wrench to spin the lugs off or use my cordless drill. I purchased a Craftsman 1/2" 18.2v 250 pound cordless impact wrench. That joker is super strong and fast!! I've had it for only a year, though, but it has worked perfectly!
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