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    2004 5.7L No AC No Power steering belt configuration

    Hello everyone,

    I have hit the newbie thread, did a search with no hits and now for my first question.

    does anyone have a belt length and a belt configuration for a truck front cover with no PS and no AC. I will get the dummy pully for the AC if I have two but just wondering what else is needed. a picture would be fantastic.

    Again thank you for the help.

    Kiddart



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    Anyone??

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    Actually, few on here over the years have done that, let alone posted about it.
    2005 Magnum RT---Viper Venom Red----440ci Aluminum block----Short Runner Valve Intake--410mm BAER 6S Monoblock Extreme--Eibach Multi-Pro 2

    Custom--Grille Work--Hood--Headlights--Side View Mirrors--Rear Spoiler--Rear Diffuser--SRV Control System--Turbine Wheels


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    Don't know this vendor personally but the bottom of the page noted this tidbit of info:


    If deleting Air Condition Compressor and Power Steering, use 61F778 Belt and Stock Routing w/o A.C. Compressor.


    6.1L Gen III Hemi PS Delete LX Frt. - Bouchillon Performance Engineering



    Member Hemiwagn has done what you are planning though I am not sure how often he visits this site anymore. May be worth sending him a private message.
    He had the thread below but looks like the pics are all gone.

    Hemiwagn Reno: Update #16-AC and P/S delete
    15 Grand Cherokee SRT: Staying Stock!!!

    05 Magnum RT:
    5.7 Personal Best: Heads, Cam and Spray - 11.46 w 1.59 60'

    6.1 Personal Best: Forged, Novi 1500 and Spray - 10.405 1.566 60' @ 129.69
    7.4 Personal Best: Aluminum 449 - 10.736 ET , 1.589 60', 125.05 MPH NA
    7.0 Personal Best: Iron 426 - Whipple 2.9 - 10.46 so far

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    Thumbs up 5.7L into a 74 Darts Sport(First Fire up)

    A while ago (January 2017) I started asking a bunch of questions here and over on "A-Bodies only", regarding the swap I planed to do. My son started to get me thinking about it when he decided to put a 5.7 in his belvedere(still in the works)

    My swap started because I was tired of running strictly race fuel in my 415sb motor, I started (December 2018)selling off as much of my running small block to a few members here on Moparts/A-bodies. once all the parts were sold I then stared to buy the gen 3 parts and pieces.

    what I first started with was a 2004 Durango 5.7 with a large amount of internal issues. I paid $50 dollars for the core(and still have all the parts). then I started to piece it together and one small learning issue at a time. I decided to put that motor aside and purchase a 2007 running motor(as I was told from Carolina exchange, I will never due business with him again) that ended up being just a little better than the Durango core I bought. I was able to get away with a Hone job two new pistons, new bearings, oil pump, timing chain and gears and found a set of 09 eagle heads, new Head gaskets, Prefix intake, MSD hemi 6, TTI headers, TTI motor mounts, oil filter relocation kit hoses etc..

    The motor is now in the car all bolted up and almost ready to fire up. It has taken me from January till today to be with in a few days of firing up. I could have taken a week off work and completed the entire swap in one week but I have many other things going on in my life besides my car hobby.(Wife, adult children, house, job(travel) and the most important is the honey due list) so at a snails pace I am getting there.

    I cant say that during this swap it has all been troublesome but there are challenges as you go. I have really read and studied the guys blogs that have already completed there swaps and believe it or not, all the different swaps in all the different cars, its all worth reading about. all the way down to radiator hose selection and thermos stat temp.

    I do have some pictures of the motor on the stand and in the car that I will post so hopefully I can help someone else down the road. if I have the pictures I will post them. I have had a lot of fun with this and it was just to prove you can get a junk yard pull out motor to run good and fun doing it.

    Stay tuned for some pictures

    UPDATE!!! 7-28-19

    I was able to finally fire this motor up!!

    But let me tell you how important is to pack the oil pump with Assembly lube or with petroleum Jelly at oil pump install!!!!

    I hand cranked this motor backwards for about two hours sucking oil in the pump to prime and then forward with no luck of priming the motor. We finally decided to force the oil in from the oil pressure gage to get oil in the top of the motor. At no point did I feel comfortable that the motor was primed enough because I could not get oil to travel thru motor by hand cranking it.

    At this point I was tired, hot, and cranky(pardon the pun) so I said the hell with it. I put the plugs in it and turned the power on to the MSD6 and let it eat.

    The first turn of the key it fired for about 3 seconds then stopped

    The second turn of the key she fired up and ran I shut off at about 10 seconds or less with no oil pressure but heard the air hissing up thru the rockers what a crazy sound

    The third start it fired right off and the oil pressure came on like crazy, slowly climbing to 40psi then shot to 75 psi instantly!! what a relief!!!
    (I felt if I burn up the bearings it was coming out to pack the pump anyways)

    I let the motor run for a little bit and it started to surge the efi was starting to learn the motor so I thought.
    * the reason for surging was I had the Map sensor for the MSD6 on the back of the throttle body and the two(Fast EFI/MSD6 were fighting for dominance. I unplugged the MSD6 map sensor plug and the idle flattened right out at 850rpm

    It smelled like it was fat but really it was lean due to my eyes were burning a little, I have 110 octane in the car now that is old and cant wait to get 93 in it. So I have to sort that out and that's easy with the Fast EFI.

    I think my starter is getting hung up on the converter so I may need to shim it back. While I was hand cranking I also unplugged the computers and cranked by the key then back to manual and heard what sounded like the starter hanging up on the convertor and then disengage, has anyone else noticed this? not a big deal but I have never had to shim a starter on a Mopar.

    I have uploaded a video to You Tube and have the link. I am so far super happy with the what I see so far and hear, the 6.1 cam is invisible to super smooth idle. Enjoy the link and I now can't wait to hook up the exhaust tie up so loose ends with wiring and take it for a ride.

    I am taking a few days off to spend time with my wife as I have been in garage since Thursday night. I will also add some still pictures to this as well



    I can answer some questions as I am now experienced 5.7 transplant guy LOL
    Would I do it again, you bet you bottom dollar I would!!!
    Thanks,
    Kiddart

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    Thanks,
    Kiddart

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